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So they took a genuine medal and screwplate and assembled them to a brand new plate. Nut is genuine?
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Hi guys! First of all thanks for your opinions.
I have not more pictures of the medal. The medal was sold and I did not buy it because it looked not original to me or at least it was suspicious.
I agree with rocket that the hole in the suspension shows no trace of wearing on the edge.
The nut (and the medal) are also genuine to me. My doubts are related with the suspension, the plate and the hexagonal nut.
It is not very clear to me what part you called gaika, is it the theated cilindrical part of the suspension?
I have not more pictures of the medal. The medal was sold and I did not buy it because it looked not original to me or at least it was suspicious.
I agree with rocket that the hole in the suspension shows no trace of wearing on the edge.
The nut (and the medal) are also genuine to me. My doubts are related with the suspension, the plate and the hexagonal nut.
It is not very clear to me what part you called gaika, is it the theated cilindrical part of the suspension?
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With "гайка" I mean the screwplate (the piece that filo highlighted in his post), but is also true that this term is used also for hexagonal nuts...
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So the suspension, the hexagonal nut and the plate are not original? There are too much components for my poor criteria with those pieces...
I am finding quite difficult to get courage medal type 1 with all componentes original...
Thank you for your help!!
I am finding quite difficult to get courage medal type 1 with all componentes original...
Thank you for your help!!
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There is a need to compare, compare, and still compare it is the only system, the real suspension, they are always all the same.Alvarez ha scritto: ↑lun feb 10, 2020 8:18 pm So the suspension, the hexagonal nut and the plate are not original? There are too much components for my poor criteria with those pieces...
I am finding quite difficult to get courage medal type 1 with all componentes original...
Thank you for your help!!
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Has anyone experience with these badges? Does anyone have original photos of one of them to compare?
Has anyone experience with these badges? Does anyone have original photos of one of them to compare?
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What do you think about this engraving ?
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For me, one number may have been removed, because I seem to see signs of metal removal.
Unless it's a false duplicate...
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Ruiz,
Could you please post a full view of the front and back, and a few pictures of the SN area taken at different angles.
At this point, I tend to believe that the SN was removed and a new number engraved in the style of a known engraver, but IMO not by him.
Marc
Could you please post a full view of the front and back, and a few pictures of the SN area taken at different angles.
At this point, I tend to believe that the SN was removed and a new number engraved in the style of a known engraver, but IMO not by him.
Marc
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Do you mean before number 2?filo ha scritto: For me, one number may have been removed, because I seem to see signs of metal
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Air,
riguardando meglio, sembra che manchi del materiale, sotto tutta la zona di incisione, perciò Marc, potrebbe essere nel giusto.
Altrimenti potrebbe mancare l'ultimo numero, 2.xxx.xx? ma ultimamente mi sono un po' arrugginito...
Bisognerebbe vedere per intero la RS, per risalire alla variante.
riguardando meglio, sembra che manchi del materiale, sotto tutta la zona di incisione, perciò Marc, potrebbe essere nel giusto.
Altrimenti potrebbe mancare l'ultimo numero, 2.xxx.xx? ma ultimamente mi sono un po' arrugginito...
Bisognerebbe vedere per intero la RS, per risalire alla variante.
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I think like you
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Another original example:
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Ruiz,
Tipo 3, varietà 6.
Tipo 3, varietà 6.
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Yes , It´s
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Quindi non può esistere un 2.6xx.xxx
Marc ha ragione, il numero seriale è stato re-inciso.
A meno che non sia la variante 4, e in quel caso, rientrerebbe nel range, ma il mint mark, dovrebbe essere differente.
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In my opinion, the serial has been re-engraved from scratch.
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Hello forum mates,
I would like your opinion about that medal, specially the suspension.
The suspension looks quite new (but also the medal, maybe it was kept in a drawer for years). Hexagonal nut looks thicker than usual, screw plate looks legit to me and the ribbon seems to be new.
Thanks in advance for your help!!
I would like your opinion about that medal, specially the suspension.
The suspension looks quite new (but also the medal, maybe it was kept in a drawer for years). Hexagonal nut looks thicker than usual, screw plate looks legit to me and the ribbon seems to be new.
Thanks in advance for your help!!
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Hola Álvarez!
IMO, It is an original Medal, with the ring that joins the suspension cut off. Maybe to change it? or maybe for a repair. The ribbon looks replaced and the rest seems correct to me.
Best regards
IMO, It is an original Medal, with the ring that joins the suspension cut off. Maybe to change it? or maybe for a repair. The ribbon looks replaced and the rest seems correct to me.
Best regards
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Alvarez,
Can you please make some pictures of the suspension without the ribbon.
Marc
Can you please make some pictures of the suspension without the ribbon.
Marc
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Hi, the medal is not mine but I have asked some pictures of the suspension without the ribbon to the seller.
Once I got those pictures I will post them.
Thanks
Once I got those pictures I will post them.
Thanks
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I like this medal. The connecting ring seems just broken. Most likely because of an accident.
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Rocket,
The connecting ring was clearly cut.
The connecting ring was clearly cut.
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Uncut connecting ring would be a good sign of original suspension?
Thanks
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