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Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: dom ago 19, 2018 11:31 am
da filo
Alvarez ha scritto:Thank you for your opinions. I also think that it is original.

I love medal for courage type 1. [151

Regards
I agree, and I suggest you also to research it.

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: lun set 03, 2018 9:00 pm
da Lapa
Guys,

The medal and the suspension are nice, but I believe that the suspension ring is a replacement.

Marc

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: lun set 03, 2018 11:22 pm
da Alvarez
Lapa ha scritto:Guys,

The medal and the suspension are nice, but I believe that the suspension ring is a replacement.

Marc
Thank you for your opinion Lapa. Do you like to see more pictures of the ring or you are sure about the replaced ring?

Do you think it is old or new replacement?

Why do you think it is a replacement? Shape, colour, etc. (just for learn something about it).

Thanks in advance

Regards

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: mar set 04, 2018 2:06 am
da filo
Yes, Marc could be right, actually the suspension ring seems to have the thickness of the diameter, a bit too big.

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: ven set 07, 2018 11:17 am
da Alvarez
Thank you for your opinions about that courage medal, despite the replaced ring it is nice medal.

On the other hand I have some doubts (due to my lack of experience) with following ORB. I asked more detailed pictures to the seller, but for the moment I have no better pictures.

Thanks in advance

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: ven set 07, 2018 11:21 am
da filo
For me, is not. [notok
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Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: ven set 07, 2018 12:26 pm
da Alvarez
Yes, I think so. Anyway, more detailed pictures:

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: ven set 07, 2018 1:06 pm
da Lapa
Strangely looking piece...

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: ven set 07, 2018 10:17 pm
da filo
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Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: ven set 07, 2018 10:51 pm
da filo
It could also be... Mint mark and serial number are convincing, from under the ground..? And restored very badly.
Although the torch appears to be out of range.

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: ven set 07, 2018 11:30 pm
da Alvarez
Thank you for your opinion. The award looks strange, I am not going to buy it, I prefer not to take risks.

The price is 625€ (shipping and research documents included) and history behind it, was really good (pilot of Il-2).

Thank you again

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: sab set 08, 2018 12:04 am
da filo
Alvarez ha scritto:Thank you for your opinion. The award looks strange, I am not going to buy it, I prefer not to take risks.

The price is 625€ (shipping and research documents included) and history behind it, was really good (pilot of Il-2).

Thank you again
My opinion is not very reliable, it is much better to wait for the competent Marc.
Given the bad conditions of the Order, even if its history is important, its price is definitely too high, even my madness, would not push me that much, I would pass too.

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: sab set 08, 2018 1:10 am
da filo
I found it, for me is good one.
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Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: sab set 08, 2018 9:25 pm
da Lapa
Guys,

On Filo's pictures, I like it much better on the reverse side. As to the front, I believe that either the piece has been badly reenamelled or has spent some extended time underground (or maybe even both).

Marc

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: dom set 09, 2018 8:21 pm
da filo
Lapa ha scritto:Guys,

On Filo's pictures, I like it much better on the reverse side. As to the front, I believe that either the piece has been badly reenamelled or has spent some extended time underground (or maybe even both).

Marc
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Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: dom set 09, 2018 9:28 pm
da Alvarez
Thank you for our opinion!!

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Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: dom set 09, 2018 9:39 pm
da filo
Alvarez ha scritto:Thank you for our opinion!!

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I saw that it is negotiable, and 700 will not go away... you try with an indecent offer ;)

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: dom set 09, 2018 10:52 pm
da Alvarez
Yes, however I need to think if I really want an ORB in that bad state. The history is good but I don't like general appearance of the award.

Regards

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: sab set 15, 2018 12:28 pm
da Alvarez
Hello!!

A couple of orders of red banner. I think both are OK, but I would like to have your opinion.

Thanks in advance

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: sab set 15, 2018 4:05 pm
da Lapa
Alvarez,

The screwback ORB is a fake.

Marc

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: sab set 15, 2018 4:16 pm
da Alvarez
Lapa ha scritto:Alvarez,

The screwback ORB is a fake.

Marc
Thank you Marc!

Where do you see that it is a fake?

I guess that the second ORB is good, isn't it?

Thanks

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: sab set 15, 2018 7:00 pm
da Lapa
Alvarez ha scritto:Where do you see that it is a fake?
The short list [110.gif :
. enamel
. details of the stamp
. SN digits

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: lun set 24, 2018 3:42 pm
da filo
Anche se tutto sembra corrispondere, ho la netta sensazione, che siamo di fronte a un falso di grande qualità... 8-) Opinioni?
Even if everything seems to correspond, I have the distinct sensation that we are faced with a fake of great quality... Opinion?
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Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: mer set 26, 2018 3:03 pm
da Dom
Filo,

this is the 2nd type of ШМЗ НКПС, it has been cleaned up a lot and details have disappeared (at the tractor level), the picture is taken with flash and gives a bad impression but I think it is a good badge .

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: mer set 26, 2018 4:44 pm
da Lapa
A picture without the screwplate on would definitely not hurt in this case...