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Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: sab feb 08, 2020 10:03 pm
da komsomol
So they took a genuine medal and screwplate and assembled them to a brand new plate. Nut is genuine?

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: dom feb 09, 2020 12:30 am
da filo
komsomol ha scritto:
sab feb 08, 2020 10:03 pm
Nut is genuine?


Seb, for me yes.
Medal-for-Bravery-2-1080x1160_1.jpg
Medal-for-Bravery-8-scaled_1.jpg

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: dom feb 09, 2020 2:41 am
da Alvarez
Hi guys! First of all thanks for your opinions.

I have not more pictures of the medal. The medal was sold and I did not buy it because it looked not original to me or at least it was suspicious.

I agree with rocket that the hole in the suspension shows no trace of wearing on the edge.

The nut (and the medal) are also genuine to me. My doubts are related with the suspension, the plate and the hexagonal nut.

It is not very clear to me what part you called gaika, is it the theated cilindrical part of the suspension?

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: dom feb 09, 2020 3:25 am
da rocketscientist
With "гайка" I mean the screwplate (the piece that filo highlighted in his post), but is also true that this term is used also for hexagonal nuts...

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: lun feb 10, 2020 9:18 pm
da Alvarez
So the suspension, the hexagonal nut and the plate are not original? There are too much components for my poor criteria with those pieces... [1334

I am finding quite difficult to get courage medal type 1 with all componentes original...

Thank you for your help!!

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: mer feb 26, 2020 3:50 pm
da filo
Alvarez ha scritto:
lun feb 10, 2020 9:18 pm
So the suspension, the hexagonal nut and the plate are not original? There are too much components for my poor criteria with those pieces... [1334

I am finding quite difficult to get courage medal type 1 with all componentes original...

Thank you for your help!!
There is a need to compare, compare, and still compare [50 it is the only system, the real suspension, they are always all the same.

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: dom mag 10, 2020 5:47 pm
da ruiz
Criminal investigation Department badge

Has anyone experience with these badges? Does anyone have original photos of one of them to compare?

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: mar ago 18, 2020 7:54 pm
da ruiz
What do you think about this engraving ?

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: mer ago 19, 2020 11:30 pm
da filo
ruiz ha scritto:
mar ago 18, 2020 7:54 pm
What do you think about this engraving ?
For me, one number may have been removed, because I seem to see signs of metal removal.
Unless it's a false duplicate...
IMG_9755_1.jpg

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: gio ago 20, 2020 1:43 am
da Lapa
Ruiz,

Could you please post a full view of the front and back, and a few pictures of the SN area taken at different angles.
At this point, I tend to believe that the SN was removed and a new number engraved in the style of a known engraver, but IMO not by him.

Marc

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: gio ago 20, 2020 9:25 am
da airfix
filo ha scritto: For me, one number may have been removed, because I seem to see signs of metal
Do you mean before number 2?

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: gio ago 20, 2020 2:45 pm
da filo
Air,
riguardando meglio, sembra che manchi del materiale, sotto tutta la zona di incisione, perciò Marc, potrebbe essere nel giusto.
Altrimenti potrebbe mancare l'ultimo numero, 2.xxx.xx? ma ultimamente mi sono un po' arrugginito... [icon_246
Bisognerebbe vedere per intero la RS, per risalire alla variante.

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: gio ago 20, 2020 3:17 pm
da ruiz
filo ha scritto:
mer ago 19, 2020 11:30 pm
ruiz ha scritto:
mar ago 18, 2020 7:54 pm
What do you think about this engraving ?
For me, one number may have been removed, because I seem to see signs of metal removal.
Unless it's a false duplicate...
IMG_9755_1.jpg
I think like you

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: gio ago 20, 2020 3:22 pm
da ruiz
Another original example:

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: gio ago 20, 2020 3:59 pm
da filo
Ruiz,

Tipo 3, varietà 6.
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Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: gio ago 20, 2020 4:53 pm
da ruiz
Yes , It´s

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: gio ago 20, 2020 10:48 pm
da filo
ruiz ha scritto:
gio ago 20, 2020 4:53 pm
Yes , It´s
Quindi non può esistere un 2.6xx.xxx 8-)
Marc ha ragione, il numero seriale è stato re-inciso.

A meno che non sia la variante 4, e in quel caso, rientrerebbe nel range, ma il mint mark, dovrebbe essere differente.
Screenshot_20200820-225243_1.jpg
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Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: sab set 05, 2020 11:00 am
da rocketscientist
In my opinion, the serial has been re-engraved from scratch.
ORS 0268773 rear 02.jpg
wORS-2609152-rear-07.jpg
w-ORS-2265333-rear-1.jpg

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: lun set 14, 2020 11:23 am
da Alvarez
Hello forum mates,

I would like your opinion about that medal, specially the suspension.

The suspension looks quite new (but also the medal, maybe it was kept in a drawer for years). Hexagonal nut looks thicker than usual, screw plate looks legit to me and the ribbon seems to be new.

Thanks in advance for your help!!

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: lun set 14, 2020 5:10 pm
da ruiz
Hola Álvarez!

IMO, It is an original Medal, with the ring that joins the suspension cut off. Maybe to change it? or maybe for a repair. The ribbon looks replaced and the rest seems correct to me.

Best regards

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: lun set 14, 2020 5:17 pm
da Lapa
Alvarez,

Can you please make some pictures of the suspension without the ribbon.

Marc

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: lun set 14, 2020 10:02 pm
da Alvarez
Hi, the medal is not mine but I have asked some pictures of the suspension without the ribbon to the seller.

Once I got those pictures I will post them.

Thanks

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: mar set 15, 2020 11:10 pm
da rocketscientist
I like this medal. The connecting ring seems just broken. Most likely because of an accident.

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: mer set 16, 2020 12:21 am
da Lapa
Rocket,

The connecting ring was clearly cut.

Re: Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

Inviato: mer set 16, 2020 8:05 am
da Alvarez
Uncut connecting ring would be a good sign of original suspension?

Thanks