Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

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Alfred
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Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Messaggio da Alfred » ven set 24, 2021 9:59 am

Hello,

never engaged deeply with these badges.

What are signs of fake/forgery of these badges.

I will post a few picture here.

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Messaggio da rocketscientist » ven set 24, 2021 10:54 pm

I like very much these army badges, but I have none in my collection. I am not an expert then, however I do not see anything wrong in yours.

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Messaggio da komsomol » ven set 24, 2021 11:28 pm

Here is a bunch a copies. For comparison, the upper badge is a common legit all-arms school badge.

As you see, gilding is too shiny, the hammer and sickle are too thick, enamels are too dark.
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Messaggio da Alfred » mar ott 12, 2021 5:30 pm

I bought a bunch of them in the 90´s. I never figured out if they are genuiene or copies.

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Messaggio da Lapa » mar ott 12, 2021 9:22 pm

Andreas,

These are not my cup of tea, but they look good to me.

Marc

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Messaggio da Alfred » gio ott 14, 2021 8:46 pm

Thanks Marc,

here are two more of these badges.

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Messaggio da Alfred » dom nov 07, 2021 2:17 pm

A few things I notices between fakes and orignals.

- sometimes hammer and sickle is different
- copies have a slightly thinner screw
- the tip of the screw is slightly sharpened by original badges
- for originals, under the red enamel, a "3" can be seen
- original badges are seen from the side more arched/bent as copies

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Messaggio da Alfred » dom nov 07, 2021 2:18 pm

pictures
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Messaggio da komsomol » gio nov 11, 2021 11:51 am

Hello, thank you fpr the pictures! The "3" is a form, or a clear mintmark?

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Messaggio da Alfred » mer nov 17, 2021 11:27 pm

Hello, thank you fpr the pictures! The "3" is a form, or a clear mintmark?
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Messaggio da Pakkenen » lun dic 06, 2021 8:51 pm

komsomol ha scritto:
gio nov 11, 2021 11:51 am
....The "3" is a form, or a clear mintmark?
This is the specifics of the stamp of the badges. In the former USSR, this mark "3" on those badges sometimes called (I beg your pardon!!! ) "waving balls".

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Messaggio da rocketscientist » dom dic 12, 2021 8:46 pm

Not sure having understood... Is this "3"-shape under the red enamel a "must have" or just a "good sign for originality"? [50

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Messaggio da Lapa » mar dic 14, 2021 6:41 pm

Rocket,

It is a must have for originality.

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Messaggio da Pakkenen » mar dic 14, 2021 11:44 pm

Pakkenen ha scritto:
lun dic 06, 2021 8:51 pm
komsomol ha scritto:
gio nov 11, 2021 11:51 am
....The "3" is a form, or a clear mintmark?
This is the specifics of the stamp of the badges. In the former USSR, this mark "3" on those badges sometimes called (I beg your pardon!!! ) "waving balls".
Sorry, I meant the stamp feature is similar to "3". The engraver tried to depict the folds of the banner, which turned out to be similar to "3". [278

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Messaggio da rocketscientist » dom dic 26, 2021 12:09 am

Good to know that it is a mandatory feature, it will help a lot in avoiding replicas! Thank you! [50 [50 [50

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