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Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: ven set 24, 2021 9:59 am
da Alfred
Hello,

never engaged deeply with these badges.

What are signs of fake/forgery of these badges.

I will post a few picture here.

best regards and thanks
Andreas

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: ven set 24, 2021 10:54 pm
da rocketscientist
I like very much these army badges, but I have none in my collection. I am not an expert then, however I do not see anything wrong in yours.

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: ven set 24, 2021 11:28 pm
da komsomol
Here is a bunch a copies. For comparison, the upper badge is a common legit all-arms school badge.

As you see, gilding is too shiny, the hammer and sickle are too thick, enamels are too dark.

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: mar ott 12, 2021 5:30 pm
da Alfred
I bought a bunch of them in the 90´s. I never figured out if they are genuiene or copies.

best regards and thanks
Andreas

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: mar ott 12, 2021 9:22 pm
da Lapa
Andreas,

These are not my cup of tea, but they look good to me.

Marc

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: gio ott 14, 2021 8:46 pm
da Alfred
Thanks Marc,

here are two more of these badges.

Andreas

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: dom nov 07, 2021 1:17 pm
da Alfred
A few things I notices between fakes and orignals.

- sometimes hammer and sickle is different
- copies have a slightly thinner screw
- the tip of the screw is slightly sharpened by original badges
- for originals, under the red enamel, a "3" can be seen
- original badges are seen from the side more arched/bent as copies

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: dom nov 07, 2021 1:18 pm
da Alfred
pictures

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: gio nov 11, 2021 10:51 am
da komsomol
Hello, thank you fpr the pictures! The "3" is a form, or a clear mintmark?

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: mer nov 17, 2021 10:27 pm
da Alfred
Hello, thank you fpr the pictures! The "3" is a form, or a clear mintmark?

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: lun dic 06, 2021 7:51 pm
da Pakkenen
komsomol ha scritto: gio nov 11, 2021 10:51 am ....The "3" is a form, or a clear mintmark?
This is the specifics of the stamp of the badges. In the former USSR, this mark "3" on those badges sometimes called (I beg your pardon!!! ) "waving balls".

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: dom dic 12, 2021 7:46 pm
da rocketscientist
Not sure having understood... Is this "3"-shape under the red enamel a "must have" or just a "good sign for originality"? [50

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: mar dic 14, 2021 5:41 pm
da Lapa
Rocket,

It is a must have for originality.

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: mar dic 14, 2021 10:44 pm
da Pakkenen
Pakkenen ha scritto: lun dic 06, 2021 7:51 pm
komsomol ha scritto: gio nov 11, 2021 10:51 am ....The "3" is a form, or a clear mintmark?
This is the specifics of the stamp of the badges. In the former USSR, this mark "3" on those badges sometimes called (I beg your pardon!!! ) "waving balls".
Sorry, I meant the stamp feature is similar to "3". The engraver tried to depict the folds of the banner, which turned out to be similar to "3". [278

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: sab dic 25, 2021 11:09 pm
da rocketscientist
Good to know that it is a mandatory feature, it will help a lot in avoiding replicas! Thank you! [50 [50 [50

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: mar apr 26, 2022 7:35 pm
da Alfred
Found this badge at the weekend at the nilitary show in Ciney Belgium.

Any oppinions?

best regards and thanks
Andreas

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: dom mag 01, 2022 1:08 am
da komsomol
Alfred ha scritto: mar apr 26, 2022 7:35 pm Found this badge at the weekend at the nilitary show in Ciney Belgium.
I was too in Ciney!

Not an exceptionnal edition, wasn't it?

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: sab mag 07, 2022 8:24 am
da Alfred
After looking at it later, I don't really like the badge.

The badge has a very flat relief. Many copies have very shallow relief (seen from the side).
I'll take pictures later.

Andreas

Re: Academy badges for non-commissioned officer

Inviato: sab mag 07, 2022 10:21 am
da Alfred
Here is a comparision. The badge on the right is the paratrooper badge.

You can clearly see the differences in the hight of the badges.

Andreas