ORDER OF RED BANNER OF LABOUR + DOCUMENT 308002

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ORDER OF RED BANNER OF LABOUR + DOCUMENT 308002

Messaggio da komsomol » mer mag 10, 2017 9:47 am

Hello Gentlemen, what do you think of this order?

I belive it could be legit, I don't see any defects but I'm not the best in this game...

Thank you for yours highlights! It could be my first flatback.
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Messaggio da filo » mer mag 10, 2017 4:09 pm

La base di vellutino celeste è inconfondibile... Bukowski.
Ordine è Doc per me sono ok.

The base of celestial velvet is unmistakable... Bukowski.
Order and Doc for me are ok.
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Sii il vento, e non la foglia - С уважением, filo [hatt

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Messaggio da Auke » mer mag 10, 2017 8:44 pm

Nothing wrong with it. Everything he sells is good [264

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Messaggio da 128VAM » mer mag 10, 2017 8:47 pm

complimenti , bella e perfetta [264

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Messaggio da rocketscientist » mer mag 10, 2017 10:03 pm

Davvero un bellissimo flatback, congratulazioni! [264

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Messaggio da Regaleco » gio mag 11, 2017 2:16 am

Nice Seb! [264

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Messaggio da komsomol » gio mag 11, 2017 10:13 pm

Thanks a lot gentlemen for your highlights, the deal is concluded. 80usd, could be cheaper, could be more expensive, but still a documented flatback.

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Messaggio da rocketscientist » gio mag 11, 2017 11:10 pm

A fair agreement, considering the specimen and their conditions. [264

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Messaggio da komsomol » lun giu 05, 2017 1:10 am

Hello gentlemen, a little bit off-topic, but I'd like to have yours opinions about this one:

1000000 should be in the 75-77 years, but so many were awarded in those days, it could be possible. But the type 6 doc in 1983, did you see other occurences? I've see all type 6 within the 1986 year. Note this one has a very low serial number. I have no clue about when they launched this booklet variation.

Seller is Oliverlv, a well-known guy on "E". I know he likes dressing paper groups with a lot of badges. ..
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Messaggio da rocketscientist » lun giu 05, 2017 10:08 am

After production, Orders were scattered all over Soviet Union, therefore it is possible that small lots slept for few years before being awarded. I made a little statistics some time ago, which can give an idea of what I mean.
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Messaggio da komsomol » lun giu 05, 2017 1:33 pm

Yes! Thank you for your graphic! [146

I made statistics too, with the old Kutsenko's book, images from Collectrussia, reliable collections seen on the net... The Shishkov book gives stats too.

I'm not too anoyed by the order in itself, this is the booklet which worries me the most. Could be a blank one filled. All type 6 I've seen are of 1986. Curiously I never seen 1985 orders ! [255

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Messaggio da komsomol » dom lug 02, 2017 2:35 pm

I received the set:
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Messaggio da rocketscientist » dom lug 02, 2017 5:37 pm

Nice group of consistent awards to [264 an hard worker!

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Messaggio da komsomol » dom lug 02, 2017 5:53 pm

A lot of stuff is coming from Dniepropetrovsk!

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Messaggio da GC* » mar lug 04, 2017 3:03 pm

Am I mistaken or I have read onto one of the Udarnik documents MinTyazhStroya Ukrainian SSR? I would tend to translate that as Ministerstvo Tyazhelnogo Stroeniya (Ministry of Heavy Construction), but am not sure a Narkom/Ministry ever existed under that name. I am aware though of the Monisterstvo Tyazhelnogo Mashinostroeniya (Ministry of Heavy Machinery of the USSR).
I am just asking because I initially wondered is this fellow was a miner, but if I am correct he seems to have been working under another ministry and it would be nice to be able to identify precisely which. From the captions on the documents and their dates we should be able to do so.

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Messaggio da komsomol » sab lug 29, 2017 3:13 pm

Hello, here are the documents!
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Messaggio da komsomol » dom dic 24, 2017 9:36 pm

Guys, I never saw this type of engraving, even for such a common piece...

Seller's photos are corect, and it looks like an engraving with rotating tool, but the blocke had a "heavy" hand... Patina looks correct and differences seem coming from light exposure.
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Messaggio da Lapa » dom dic 24, 2017 10:16 pm

Seb,

It is legit, and definitely in that SN range (600000-650000). It is nicknamed "childish handwriting".

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Messaggio da rocketscientist » lun dic 25, 2017 12:10 am

I like this variation, as well as the other one where the serial number has a leading "0" (ref. Mondvor: 0506132 to 0513238).

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Messaggio da komsomol » lun dic 25, 2017 12:33 pm

Gentlemen, thank you for such quick answers! [278

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Messaggio da Ericfg » lun dic 25, 2017 3:44 pm

rocketscientist ha scritto:After production, Orders were scattered all over Soviet Union, therefore it is possible that small lots slept for few years before being awarded. I made a little statistics some time ago, which can give an idea of what I mean.
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komsomol ha scritto: I made statistics too, with the old Kutsenko's book, images from Collectrussia, reliable collections seen on the net... The Shishkov book gives stats too.
[Da tema, scusi] i Gentiluomini, mi piacerebbe vedere quelle statistiche e grafica da qualche parte. Sono pubblicati qui? O potrei suggerire come PDF (o altro) disponibile a trasferimento di dati? Mi piace guardare dati come così.
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[Off topic, sorry] Gentlemen, I would love to see those statistics and graphics somewhere. Are they published here? Or might I suggest as a PDF (or other) available to download? I like to look at data like that.
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Grazie, Eric.

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Messaggio da komsomol » lun dic 25, 2017 4:02 pm

Igor Kutsenko did stats in 1997, then S. Shishlov. I made mine, using the two previous ones and adde infos observed on the Web.
Please give me an email and I'llsee what I can send to yu, my files are old...

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Messaggio da komsomol » sab lug 28, 2018 9:43 pm

Guys, this forum lacks action. My fault too, of course.

I finally bought the group I showed you earlier. Still a basic order, but with a "DDR-like" bunch of docs about the awardee.
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Messaggio da Alfred » mar ago 07, 2018 8:24 pm

nice set [278

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Messaggio da GC* » mar nov 13, 2018 11:00 am

I know that my question will make a few eyebrows raise.. but what is the little plastic badge marked 1938 for?
From the Udarnik and Ukrainian badge for socialist competition I gather we might be dealing with a worker of the hydroelectric power plants compartment - any chance we could get to know more?

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