Falsi? Fakes? Фуфел?

[filo]

fake "For Distinction in Military Service 1 class"

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[ruiz]

Berlin, cleaned severely

[Nota_Bene]

Berlin, cleaned severely

It has been cleaned to death, but is actually original.

[ruiz]

I think the same

[Tommy]

I agree. The shagreen is there in the places that aren't possible to reach with a cloth over the finger.

[Nota_Bene]

I agree. The shagreen is there in the places that aren't possible to reach with a cloth over the finger.

I don't believe they used cloth, somebody actually took sandpaper to it or something similar.

[128VAM]

ho preso per pochi euro a scopo scientifico/didattico questo pezzo.

Signori per la serie "come ti rovino una OG3 buona e la trasformo in una autentica falsa OG1"

Al retro il seriale è stato accuratamente spianato, la doratura è molto buona e omogenea (le foto ingannano)
fatta in tempi non recenti, avendo gia' un patina gradevole.

La mia domanda è perché fare tutto ciò.

[airfix]

La mia domanda è perché fare tutto ciò.

Perche' e' gentaccia senza scrupoli

[ruiz]

Hi.

I see this in the Hermann Historica auction. Lot Nr. 5087 Order of the Red Banner " 7 award" ...number Nº 8

http://www.hermann-historica.de/db2_en/ ... ianeu.html

And this in Mondvor page.

[Airon]

Please do not link to resources outside the website or link against the rules of the site.
If you need to show something please upload the photo directly to the rkka.it platform to avoid link-rot.

Thanks
Airon

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[Lapa]

Well, this one is supposed to be the original one

[ruiz]

Sorry Airon !

Marc, A very expensive purchase, I think that "HH" does not support returns.

[Lapa]

...A very expensive purchase, I think that "HH" does not support returns.

Ruiz,

Clearly not the price range it should have been, had it been the real thing

Marc

[ruiz]

Look this in a very international important fórum

[Lapa]

Ruiz,

This is a very standard Kapral fake

Marc

[ruiz]

Yes. I am surprised that in a international forum allow these sales.

[komsomol]

Photos are disgusting fro such a proposed price of 1800!

To my eyes it seems thats the strawberry-red enamels are the first giveaway.

[Lapa]

Seb,
Look at that handwriting...

Marc

[komsomol]

Seb,
Look at that handwriting...

Marc

Booooh, it looks like a 80ies rotating-tool style, nothing alarming for a 40ies order

[komsomol]

I really don't like it: proposed on "E" for 371usd, it seems that all usefull details have been artificially scratched (with sandpaper???) to hide the defects on external rim and letters.

[vix19]

Buongiorno , Ordine della Guerra Patriottica 85 seconda classe variante no serial .
Secondo voi è originale o qualcuno ha cancellato il seriale ?

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[Regaleco]

Esistono senza numero e costano care, sono una sorta di "rarita' filateliche", rare non per il basso numero di esemplari realizzati ma per un errore nella produzione. In questo caso mi sembra che il seriale sia stato abraso ad arte, anche se dalla foto non si vede bene.

[Lapa]

Vix,

Your pictures are definitely not the best, but it seems to me that the original serial number was erased on this order.

Marc

[vix19]

Regaleco, Lapa

Come arriva l’ordine posterò altre foto , ma sono d’accordo con voi non penso ci siano speranze .
Ne ho combinato un’altra delle mie

[komsomol]

Here are a serie proposed on Ebay, from a seller based in Kazan, RF.

This Kutuzov, too poor in details IMHO.