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This medal (200usd when I picked up the pictures):

Poor details on ears, the letters baddly struck on the right portion of the avers...

The shoulder boards are not correct at all (not convex enoigh, etc). Would it be a new engraving?

Last from the same dealer in Kazan, a LG 2nd class with some details on blue enamel... I got paranoid after seeing a LG2 proposed as a fake on aukro.ua (the pictures in the next message).

The enamel doesn't flush correctly on the external rim, there are some zones of lighter blue, and a small grain of shock undeneath the enamel...

And the LG2 sold on Aukro, proposed in the "fakes" section, described as a doctored early LG3.

Seew in Czech republic: good enamels, good colors...

What makes you think it is not original? I can't understand whether the serial is cleared off or just missing.

First, it was sold as a fake. Secondly, the seller proposed a whole serie of molded medals (I'll be post them if you want). There's a defect on the outer rim of the blason. The defect on the "C" letter could be a coin defect, but look at the rim above the "TARII and VSEKH", this a molding defect.

Otherwise the beast is credible...

Bene dopo un mese di attesa è arrivata OPW85 II cl. no serial ,niente di nuovo tutto è chiaro . Dalla rete , falso ordine di I cl. Da catalogo

Vix,

Why is the line so weak, why is the pebbling texture in the area where the serial number should be different from that in other areas of the order.
If you compare to the genuine examples you showed, the surface is constantly even all over the reverse, and the line is well defined.

From the pictures you posted, in my opinion, the serial number on this order has been erased and the surface was then refinished. Try to make some more pictures under different light angles, just in case.

Marc

Your analysis is perfect, the serial was deleted

Hi, looks OK to me. Opinions please.
Best regards.

Looks ok to me.

Fake?

http://www.rkka.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=28545

Quì, forse potremmo essere di fronte a un grande falso..?

Filo,

IMO, not necessarily, since several different dies were used.

Marc

Lapa ha scritto:Filo,

IMO, not necessarily, since several different dies were used.

Marc

And you're absolutely right , in spite of the ugly face of the soldier, the back shows without a shadow of doubt, that the distinctive RKKA is an original.

E hai perfettamente ragione , nonostante la brutta faccia del soldato, il retro dimostra senza ombra di dubbio, che il distintivo RKKA è un originale.

Una riproduzione di buona qualità.

preoccupante...

filo ha scritto:Una riproduzione di buona qualità.

I respectfully disagree. I think it's rather crude.

Alexei

...ancora più' preoccupante, allora...

then it is worrying even more....

Nota_Bene ha scritto:

filo ha scritto:Una riproduzione di buona qualità.

I respectfully disagree. I think it's rather crude.

Alexei

Hello Alexei, for comparison, what do you think of the star I showed on may 19th? It was sold as a fake on aukro.ua.

komsomol ha scritto:
Hello Alexei, for comparison, what do you think of the star I showed on may 19th? It was sold as a fake on aukro.ua.

They look like identical twins to me.

Alexei

Not the best quality fakes but still usefull to see:

This one: I don't like the doc. Looks like stains result from dipping in a brownish liquid, and the stamp is curious, if not too recent, is out of subject for a border guards unit...

Hi !

The order it´s good in my opinion but I don't know what is the mark under the number four. Opinios are welcome!

The inner star is definitely good in my opinion, and I do not see anything obviously wrong in the golden one. The sign could be a technical mark sometime seen on other orders?

La stella interna mi sembra assolutamente buona, direi, e non vedo nulla di evidentemente sbagliato in quella d'oro. Il segno potrebbe essere un "marchio tecnico" come quelli che si vedono di tanto in tanto su altri ordini?