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Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 12:14 am
da Nota_Bene
Back to this thread...
Fakes made from genuine awards (like suspension awards converted to screwback and visa versa; awards with changed serial numbers; awards "upgraded" from lower class to a higher one, etc.) in most cases present no problem, with the exception of Order of Labor Glory 1st class, Order of the Service to Motherland 2nd and 3rd classand some others. I will post some examples.
Alexei
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 12:18 am
da Nota_Bene
A fake Labor Glory 1st class. You can tell by hot enamel on the small segment to the left of the tower.
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 12:22 am
da Nota_Bene
High numbered 3rd class with a changed serial number and fake gold plating.
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 12:28 am
da Nota_Bene
Fake gold and partially erased serial number.
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 12:34 am
da Nota_Bene
Fake screwpost
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 12:39 am
da Nota_Bene
Fake screwpost on the Order of Lenin
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 12:40 am
da Nota_Bene
... and this is how it looked like before it got mutilated.
Alexei
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 12:44 am
da Nota_Bene
Fake suspension and fake back piece. The ' in the "Й" gives it up.
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 12:48 am
da Nota_Bene
Red Banner is also an easy victim.
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 12:50 am
da Nota_Bene
My absolute favorite are items that never existed AKA fantasy pieces, like this one.
This Red Banner RSFSR is made of solid gold!!
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 12:52 am
da Nota_Bene
Red Banner eights award. I have seenthis piece offered for sale at least a couple of times.
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 12:53 am
da Nota_Bene
Laddies and Gentlemen,
This concludes my brief presentation. Thank you for your time
Alexei
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 3:10 am
da SergioV
Nota_Bene ha scritto:Laddies and Gentlemen,
This concludes my brief presentation. Thank you for your time
Alexei
Thank you very much Alexei

Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 10:45 am
da GC*
An awesome set of highly valuable scans Alexei, thanks indeed!

Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 12:04 pm
da vix19
Thank you for these important and useful information

Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 2:48 pm
da filo
Thanks Alexei, but if you can continue, because I'm still not tired of seeing.

Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 9:22 pm
da komsomol
Nota_Bene ha scritto:If you know what to look for (in this care the suspension ring) you can spot a fake even from a low res picture.
Hello Alexei, your old picture of this Budapest medal worried me for hours and hours. I'm not really at ease with this too simply engraved liberation medals. What are the give-aways about this fake Budapest please?
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 11:30 pm
da Nota_Bene
komsomol ha scritto:
Hello Alexei, your old picture of this Budapest medal worried me for hours and hours. I'm not really at ease with this too simply engraved liberation medals. What are the give-aways about this fake Budapest please?
That's the problem with those fake medals - when the scans are not detailed enough, it's almost impossible to tell. In this case check the letter "У" in "БУДАПЕШТА" and you will see the difference.
Alexei
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: ven apr 04, 2014 11:32 pm
da Nota_Bene
Thanks guys! If there is interest I will be happy to continue this thread and post interesting fakes once in a while.
If a kind moderator would consider "sticking" this thread maybe other members here would also post fakes here
Alexei
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: sab apr 05, 2014 12:26 am
da Nota_Bene
Speaking of continuing, here's a recent arrival. Made from scratch.
Alexei
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: sab apr 05, 2014 12:29 am
da Nota_Bene
And for your amusement - these two were sent to me for authentication only a couple of days apart. Both are fakes and both "purchased from a very reputable dealer", who remained unnamed.
Alexei
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: sab apr 05, 2014 5:13 am
da SergioV

twins fake..
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: sab apr 05, 2014 7:49 pm
da andrej
Hi Alexei!
Maybe my memory fails...but i remember, for the series "total fantasy", a paticular kind of screwback orders (maybe OPW, OAN or similars) that had, in place of the screw, a german type suspension system (like Iron Cross I class). The tale was that those were specimens made by the germans for their spies among the Red Army
Never seen/sound something like that?
Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: sab apr 05, 2014 8:17 pm
da filo
andrej ha scritto:Hi Alexei!
Maybe my memory fails...but i remember, for the series "total fantasy", a paticular kind of screwback orders (maybe OPW, OAN or similars) that had, in place of the screw, a german type suspension system (like Iron Cross I class). The tale was that those were specimens made by the germans for their spies among the Red Army
Never seen/sound something like that?
Forse intendi questo?
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Re: How NOT to Buy Fakes
Inviato: sab apr 05, 2014 9:20 pm
da Nota_Bene
filo ha scritto:Forse intendi questo?
This piece has been discussed to death and lots of theories were formulated, but I don't believe this is the one Andrej is refering to. Let me check my scans...
Alexei