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Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: dom giu 03, 2018 6:49 pm
da Alfred
Hello,

what do you think about this center medaillion?

I do not like it. Looks like a casted copy.

best regards and thanks
Andreas
WhatsApp Image 2018-06-02 at 14.59.57.jpeg
WhatsApp Image 2018-06-02 at 14.59.57.jpeg

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: dom giu 03, 2018 8:11 pm
da rocketscientist
Hi Andreas, I am not so convinced it is a cast, are you in position to verify whether it is silver or not?

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: lun giu 04, 2018 8:36 am
da Alfred
No, sadely not.

Andreas

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: lun giu 04, 2018 9:45 pm
da Alfred
The weak letters in Alek"sandr" make me suspicios.


best regards
Andreas

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: mer giu 06, 2018 1:22 am
da rocketscientist
There are plenty of differences in the small details which prevent from saying that the two pictured items are from the same variation. Nevertheless, they might be from two different dies, I am not an expert on this. It is well possible that the suspicious Nevski is a fake, in this case it find it more credible than the average copies I am able to identify.

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: mer giu 06, 2018 8:44 am
da komsomol
Guys, I 've got the feeling those defects are beyond the case of coin ageing...

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: gio giu 07, 2018 9:15 am
da airfix
komsomol ha scritto:Guys, I 've got the feeling those defects are beyond the case of coin ageing...
I have the same feeling

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: gio giu 07, 2018 8:19 pm
da komsomol
Look at the second letter "L": what could be the logical explanation for an "half-stamped" letter?

A used coin would produce a whole used letter, and a scratch or ageing process due to wearing would not have chosen the precise half of a letter...
Same reasoning avalaible for other letters with missing parts (the "E", the "K")...

And I don't like the thin rim bording the outer big rim of the medaillon, next to the second sylab of "Aleksandr" ("EK")

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: gio giu 07, 2018 8:44 pm
da Alfred
Many thanks for your oppinions and the discussion.

Andreas

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: gio giu 07, 2018 8:50 pm
da filo
Alfred, but the Nevsky medallion, It comes from an order with suspension, I mean the first type also screw post, or second type?

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: gio giu 07, 2018 9:22 pm
da filo
In my opinion, it's the second type. :arrow: download/file.php?id=165428 and the comparison is not correct. [204 :arrow: download/file.php?id=165427

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Type 1
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Type 2
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In conclusion, for me, [saput (IMHO,) the medallion is good.

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: gio lug 05, 2018 9:23 pm
da Alfred
What do you think about this Nevski?

best regards and thanks
Andreas

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: ven lug 06, 2018 1:51 pm
da Regaleco
Good one Andreas.

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: ven lug 06, 2018 7:31 pm
da filo
Good [264

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: sab lug 07, 2018 2:56 am
da rocketscientist
I also think it is good. It would be just interesting to know whether its conditions are due to wear in combat rather than negligence or disrespect.

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: sab lug 07, 2018 8:36 am
da komsomol
Not a good old chemical reaction due to a specially oxydizing storage atmosphrere?

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: sab lug 07, 2018 12:23 pm
da filo
Simply oxidation.

Re: Nevski Medaillion

Inviato: sab lug 07, 2018 1:41 pm
da Regaleco
I saw many types of oxydation in different speciments of the same order, often in the same showcase. What affect the silver oxydation and in wich way is one of the great mysteries of life :D . Personally, my problem with the oxydation is when this happen on a gilded surface... cleaning a tin gold layer always scares me.