Fregio a stella della Sicurezza del Ministero dell'Industria (Kimj)

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Apro questo nuovo argomento per evidenziare una stella sconosciuta postata ormai più di sei mesi fa da Kimj QUI. So che esiste un argomento specifico (da me creato ) per identificare i fregi, ma questo secondo me ne merita uno tutto suo.

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I am opening this new topic to highlight an unknown star originally posted by Kimj six months ago HERE. I know there exists a specific thread for the identification of cap badges (one I created ) but I believe this cockade right here deserves its own topic.

Eccola qui in foto / Here it comes in picture:

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Le mie ricerche iniziali non hanno prodotto alcun risultato, ma ora comincio a pensare che questo stranissimo fregio, sia un fregio VOHR o di qualche organizzazione simile. Ho trovato online una fibbia in vendita insieme con altre decisamente rare della VOHR. E questa è la prima fonte che ho trovato finora che ci garantisce fuor di dubbio che la stella di Kimj è Sovietica. Ora devo riuscire a capire se effettivamente è VOHR e se sì, di che periodo..

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My initial researchers did not produce any result, but I am now thinking this cap star could be VOHR, or belonging to some affiliated organisation. I found online a belt buckle on sale together with other rare VOHR ones. This is he first source that guarantees beyond any doubt that Kinj's star is Soviet. Now I have to find out whether it actually is VOHR and if yes, which period it belongs to..

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[filo]

Quindi anche il suo posizionamento corretto sarebbe questo?

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[GC*]

Quindi anche il suo posizionamento corretto sarebbe questo?

Sì, la ruota copre solo 3 dei 5 spazi tra i raggi e la scoperta della fibbia chiarifica che quei tre spazi sono quelli inferiori.

[Kimj]

Interessting stuff GC! Finaly I know wich side is up.

The silver coloured buckle is similar to one I have seen with crossed rifles. Perhaps this is not a coincidence. The star itself also has traces of silver plating, almost all gone now.

/Kim

[GC*]

The silver coloured buckle is similar to one I have seen with crossed rifles. Perhaps this is not a coincidence.

I entirely agree. I am quite sure we are indeed looking at a VOHR cap star or anyway as one wore by members of an affiliated or sub-organisation.

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[GC*]

Coup de théatre!

Somebody seems to think that the wheel-star logo belonged to ОСОАВИАХИМ (reference HERE).

Now, I really don't know what to think of that.. For the documentary sources so far found (read: none) it might well be. I'll try looking into that and we'll see if something comes out!

[Kimj]

GC. I think the Ososaviakhim reference is buckle number 55. The one we are interrested in is 54, described as industry guard.

I am really envious of that buckle collection! Lots of nice examples!

/Kim

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GC. I think the Ososaviakhim reference is buckle number 55. The one we are interrested in is 54, described as industry guard.

Coup de théatre n° 2! It seems I'm not able to read numbers!

Yes Kimj, you are so much right! Indeed listed as Охрана минпрома (Security of the Ministry for Industry). This sort of confirms our theory that the logo was a militarised security/industrial security one.
Then of course we'd have to find out wether it is Narkomproma (pre-1946) or Minproma (post-1946). I'll see if I can manage to find some info about this (hopefully in the meantime learning how to read numbers ).